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Old 06-30-2005, 10:35 AM   #1
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Old 06-30-2005, 10:36 AM   #2
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You want to gain muscle and not BF, 2 grms protein per lb and low to moderate carbs and moderate fats, thier is no set formula, we all have different metabolisms...
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Old 06-30-2005, 10:37 AM   #3
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Regarding Bent Rows:

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Man have I seen some Bicep injuries going underhand, what do you normally do underhand movements for, Back Width right, so why would you go underhand for a Back Thickness exercise like Bent Rows...
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Old 06-30-2005, 10:38 AM   #4
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As I have said in the past, if you are stagnating on a exercise, drop it and pick up a new one for that same bodypart, I do not like to see guys just dump thier whole program, not everyhting is gonna be wrong, but like I said I want to see thier diet first, 9 times out of 10 this is thier problem, no I can't say thier rep scheme will not work since we all respond to different things and knowing what thier genetics are like...
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Old 06-30-2005, 10:39 AM   #5
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You are correct, but for DC's program you train 3 times a week, we do one exercise per bodypart rest/paused with static reps, super slows and Extreme Stretching, we have two phases to this program, we have a blasting period and a cruise period, you blast doing RP, Statics and super slow negatives for any where depending on your recovery from 4-12 weeks, then we take a 2 week break, a cruise, we do easy lifting for those two weeks, no 100% max, no RP no statics or super slows, this is how we can blast and cruise, blast and cruise all year long and make the best muscle gains you can, this is why this program is for the advanced trainees only, you must know your body very very well, this takes years of pounding out iron to know how your body works in recovery and ability to overload it, you must give 110% intensity everytime that exercise rotates back to you every 14 days and you will either add weight and or reps and if you do this exercise with the same weight and or reps two times in a row, it must be dropped and you pick up a new exercise for that bodypart and kill it, this is why the log book is so important, you must beat that damn thing everytime you go in the gym, and if for any reason you are not 100% recouped when training day rolls around you take that day off and continue tomorrow, as you know you grow out of the gym not in the gym...
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Old 06-30-2005, 10:39 AM   #6
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s Future just said, I can show you guys who have been training for 10 years doing the same as shit never going anywhere and they know shit about how thier body works, so its not just time spent in the gym, its time you understand how your body works in the gym and what your limitations are and able to keep progressing week after week month after month, I mean seriously, if you have been training for 5 or 8 years and you have gained 10-15 lbs, don't you think something is really wrong here, I would have given up and started sewing or something, this is when the advanced trainees mind and experience in knowing his body comes into play, to be able to figure out the diagnostic parts so it can be fixed so you can keep right on progressing...
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Old 06-30-2005, 10:41 AM   #7
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BEGINNERS:

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I said for the beginner like you:

M-chest/tri

W-back/bi

F-shoulder/legs

2 exercises per bodypart except legs, one exercise for calf, ham and quad, you can do abs anytime you like just train them hard and heavy like any other muscle, if you were more advanced then we would go with a different program, you will grow with most any program as I said before, don't overanalyze, just lift hard, intense and brief...
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Old 06-30-2005, 10:42 AM   #8
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Flat Bench is nothing but an ego exercise, one of the most injury prone exercises out there, stick to Declines and Inclines...
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Old 06-30-2005, 10:45 AM   #9
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Regarding WARM UPS:

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A guy Squating 225 will not need as many warm up sets as the guy Squating 500, so of course as you increase weight you will need more warm ups, not failure warm ups but just enough to get the blood flow going and feeling the weight for injuries sake...
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Old 06-30-2005, 10:46 AM   #10
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You are correct, its never good to stretch a cold muscle, I advise a few minutes of warm up on a treadmill then do your warm up sets of the exercise then go for your working set the do your stretches for that muscle group, this way you are helping with recovery, fascia stretching, flexibilty and injury puposes...
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Old 06-30-2005, 10:51 AM   #11
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Man this guy must have either big lungs and full of hot air or has way way to much time on his hands, I figure its the hot air for sure...
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Old 06-30-2005, 10:53 AM   #12
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here's one he helped me with that some people might not realize

"If you do not or have not done Rack Deads in the past you will not want to learn them on the Smythe, in the old days we use to use a milk crate for the plates to sit on and that was just below the knee, you can also use a bunch of Aerobic steps to place the weights on, go Floor Deads or just pick three other exercises for Back Thickness til you get to a gym with a good Cage or Rack..."
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Old 06-30-2005, 10:56 AM   #13
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I don't know about big lungs and shit but future's fingers gotta be bulking up with the clicking and typing he has been doing lately.
Make sure to switch hands as I don't wanna see any posts from you future on how to "EVEN up the development of your fingers" cause they are out of proportion!!! LOLOLOLOL
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:01 AM   #14
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lmao @ yall. Good thread gotta give him that.
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Like I always said, weight means nothing, form is everything, the weights will come eventually, and we all have our own limits, so who cares what the final number is, as long as you are progressing and growing then thats the whole reason we are here, no matter what weight you move...
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:23 AM   #16
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I belive this to be a very good thread, exp. for the new guys lurking around here. Even for the the more advanced guys they are still good, short, reads. Thank you for your knowledge IH, and thanks for putting the time into making this threat Future. later
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:40 AM   #17
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G, My post was a shot at me, not the bald one...
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:10 PM   #18
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"Well, my perfect man, he treats me like a princess, and he makes me feel like I’m the only person in the whole world. And he takes me to wonderful places, and makes me feel awesome." - Inhuman
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:18 PM   #19
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See and by that post right there who said I ain't got no smarts real good and can type some good stuff...
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:25 PM   #20
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Regarding the back:

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Once your back rounds you are done with that set, form is key on this exercise, perform more Back Thickness exercises before doing Floor Deads, like BB Bent Rows, Rack Deads, or T-Bar Rows...
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:27 PM   #21
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Regarding THOSE who should do DC Training:

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DC designed this program for advanced trainees who have come to a point in thier training when the gains have stopped and they have exhausted all other programs, this program is not for everyone and not for the youger guy with only a few years of training under his belt, this program is way out of the ordinary and takes some real trust to go with it and really let it work, the diet alone will kill most guys, but this program is 100% training and 100% diet, not one can be done without the other...
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:31 PM   #22
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Thank you, but everyone seems to tell me the same shit, "no need for wraps, they hurt your knees", my ass they do, tell me in 15-20 years of Squating without them then with them, we will see who walks and who does not...
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:32 PM   #23
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Appetite enhancer, keeping BP in check, keeping BF% in check and Respiration in order and a great way to warm up for 10 minutes while having anxiety about that damn log book prior to lifting...
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Close Grip Bench PRess, In-Human style:

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Ok this is the way I like to CGBP, in the Smythe with only your lower and upper back on the bench, ass hanging off, this way you can plant your feet on the floor and lift your Pelvic up in the air just a bit and this will help keep your shoulders pinned to the bench, hands placed armpit width, elbows flared out as though you are Flat Benching, place the bench in the Smythe so when you lift and unlock the bar you will spin the bar towards your feet, this way your wrists will be straight throughout the whole movement, chest out, shoulders pinned to the bench, bring the bar down to just below your nips, when you push the weight to the top do not extend your shoulders, keep them pinned to the bench, stop just shy of lockout, wear wrist wraps and knee wraps on your elbows or neoprene sleeves for the heavy working sets...

If you are just sitting at your computer, take your arms bring them up in the air even with your shoulders like you are ready to Flat Bench, Elbows flared, bring your hands in armpit width, now extend out and come back to your chest, ok now try them with your elbows tucked to your side, you tell me which feels more like its working your Triceps...
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Arm Training"

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Lighter weight with higher reps for most trainees will still cause growth and less of a injury factor...
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